Once Saved Always Saved

Should we as Christians have assurance of our salvation? Yes! In 1st John 5:13, the Apostle John says: “I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.” Do I, as I write this article, believe that I am saved? Yes! Am I then an advocate of the doctrine of “Once Saved Always Saved”? No, I am not. Is this a contradiction? Not at all. I have placed my faith in Jesus Christ, and I’ve surrendered my life to Him as my Lord and Savior. Therefore, I am confident in my salvation, and I know that, if I died today, I would spend eternity with Jesus. However, I will not have the arrogance and audacity to contradict the Bible, by maintaining that it is impossible for me to choose to stray from Jesus and to return to a life of sinful and worldly indulgence at some later point in my life, and thus to become lost. Unfortunately, the “Once Saved Always Saved” doctrine does take this arrogant and unbiblical stance, by teaching that it is not possible for believers to stray or depart from God at any point in their future life, and thus to perish.

This article will provide an overwhelming amount of biblical evidence that refutes and dismantles this popular doctrine. However, I will begin by listing some of the primary scriptures that are used by those who endorse this teaching.

Proponents of “Once Saved Always Saved” remind us that Jesus said that He will not cast out those who come to Him, and that the ones who believe in Him have everlasting life and will not come into judgment, but have passed from death to life (John 6:37; John 5:24). They also bring to our attention that Jesus said that He gives His sheep eternal life, and they’ll never perish because no one is able to snatch them out of His hand (John 10:27-29).

Supporters of this doctrine also quote the Apostle Paul’s statements that, “nothing can separate us from the love of God”, and that, “God has anointed us, sealed us and given us His Spirit as a guarantee”; furthermore, that Paul said that, “He who began a good work in us, will be faithful to complete it” (Romans 8:38-39; 2nd Corinthians 1:21-22; Philippians 1:6). And, advocates of this teaching remind us of the Scripture that I referred to in the opening paragraph of this article; that those who believe in the name of the Son of God should know that they have eternal life (1st John 5:13).

The above verses indeed give us assurance of salvation. They tell us that God loves us, accepts us and saves us. They assure us that no one can separate us from that love, and that no one can take our salvation away from us. We can be sure of our salvation! But, is that the same as “Once Saved, Always Saved”?

Does God take our freedom of choice away when we’re saved, so that we can’t choose to depart from Him if we want to? If God takes our freedom of choice away, why didn’t He do that in the beginning with Adam and Eve, thereby avoiding all the misery that sin has caused? Also, the Bible says that God does not change (Malachi 3:6), so, if He allowed Adam and Eve to choose to depart from Him when they were “perfect”, why wouldn’t He allow us to depart from Him? Do we with our sinful, corruptible natures have greater strength to resist departing from God than Adam and Eve did with their sinless, incorruptible natures?

Of course, the answer is obvious. The doctrine of “Once Saved, Always Saved” is illogical, and it is also unbiblical, as shall be demonstrated. It is comforting and assuring to know that no person, demon, power, circumstance or even the devil himself can take away our salvation that Christ has given us. But, if we choose to give it up ourselves by departing from Jesus, God will respect our choice, just as He did with Adam and Eve. The following scriptures clearly show that it is possible to “fall away” or depart from God; there are conditions to remain in your saved state.

The Apostle Paul stated that some will depart and stray from the faith (1st Timothy 4:1; 1st Timothy 6:9-10), so it obviously is possible to do so; furthermore, he warned us to “take heed lest we fall” (1st Corinthians 10:12), thus indicating that we can fall.

The Apostle Peter warned that a person can turn away from Jesus, and that if he does, he is worse off than before He knew Jesus, which would have to mean that he would be lost (2nd Peter 2:20-22). And, Peter also warned us to beware lest we fall and be led away with the error of the wicked, so it is clearly possible for this to happen (2nd Peter 3:17).

The Bible states that it is possible to fall from grace and become estranged or separated from Christ (to be separated from Christ is to be lost); likewise, that it is possible for a “brother” (a “brother” is a fellow saved Christian) to violate his conscience and perish (Galatians 5:2-4; 1st Corinthians 8:8-11). The Scriptures also say in Hebrews 2:1-3, that it’s possible to drift away if we’re not careful, and that if we do, how shall we escape for neglecting so great a salvation? Therefore, we obviously can drift away from our salvation.

God’s Word states that it is possible to depart from the living God, and that we are “partakers of Christ” if we hold fast until the end (Hebrews 3:12-14); moreover, the Bible says that we must “continue in the faith” to remain reconciled (Colossians 1:21-23). Therefore, the Scriptures clearly teach that there are conditions for remaining in our reconciled relationship with Christ. Similarly, the Apostle Paul states that we’re saved if we “hold fast” to the gospel, otherwise we’ll have believed in vain (1st Corinthians 15:1-2). So, once again, there are conditions for remaining in this saved state, and it is possible to have believed in vain, which plainly indicates the possibility to become lost if we stop “holding fast” to the gospel. Likewise, Hebrews 10:35-39 says that we must endure to receive the promise; stating that people can “draw back”, resulting in their perdition or destruction. This is yet another passage declaring that people can “stray”,  “draw back” or “fall away”, resulting in their being lost or destroyed.

The Bible book of Hebrews also teaches that it is possible for people who were clearly very close to Jesus and “filled with His power”, to fall away, and that it’s impossible to bring them to repentance again, obviously indicating that they’re lost (Hebrews 6:3-6). Similarly, the prophet Ezekiel declared that if a righteous person turns to iniquity, he will die (Ezekiel 33:18); once again, clearly teaching that righteous people can turn back to a life of sin and be lost (and the reference to righteous people in this passage has to be referring to “saved people”, because only saved people could be called righteous).

James 5:19-20 states that it’s possible to wander away from the truth, and if you do, someone needs to turn you back from your error to save your soul from death. In other words, it’s possible to wander away and need to be “resaved”. Also, in Romans chapter 11, the Apostle Paul compares God’s Church to an olive tree, and he teaches that, if people don’t “continue in belief”, they will be broken off or separated from God’s olive tree (Romans 11:17-22). And, if we have been removed from God’s “olive tree church”, we are certainly in a lost state.

In Revelation 3:5, Jesus states that those in the Church who overcome will not have their names blotted out of the Book of Life. Therefore, it obviously is possible to have your name removed from God’s Book of Life, or else that subject would never have been brought up by Jesus. And, if your name is removed from God’s Book of Life, you surely would no longer be saved. Thus, this text also contradicts the “Once Saved Always Saved” doctrine. And, similarly, Hebrews 10:26-29 says that it is possible for someone who was sanctified by the blood of Jesus, to turn away and “sin willfully”, thereby bringing upon himself the fearful expectation of judgment and fiery indignation (in other words, the hell fire). So, previously sanctified people, which would have to have been saved people, can turn back to a life of willful sin, thus resulting in them going to hell.

The Apostle Paul states that we will reign with Jesus Christ if we endure, and he also says that Jesus will deny us if we deny Him (2nd Timothy 2:12). Paul is writing to Christians, so it is clearly possible to “not endure” and to deny Jesus, thus resulting in His justly denying us. And, in fact, we have an unfortunate example of one of Paul’s fellow laborers in the gospel who did not endure. Demas, who Paul referred to as his fellow laborer in Philemon verse 24, was later said to have forsaken Paul because he loved this present world (2nd Timothy 4:9). And, we know that the Bible states that if anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in Him (1st John 2:15). Therefore, according to Scripture, Demas, who had previously labored alongside of Paul, had turned backed to the world and no longer loved God. Obviously Demas was not “once saved always saved”.

In fact, according to 1st Corinthians 9:27, even the Apostle Paul knew that it was possible for him to be rejected and to become disqualified, a castaway, or a reprobate (depending on your Bible translation), if he was not spiritually disciplined. And, don’t let any modern “seeker sensitive” preachers deceive you concerning what Paul meant here, by telling you that he was not referring to the loss of his salvation, but only to losing extra rewards in heaven. The Greek word used by Paul is adokimos. He said he disciplined himself lest he should become adokimos. What is “adokimos”? It means rejected, unapproved, disqualified, worthless, a castaway or a reprobate. A reprobate is defined in modern dictionaries as being a wicked, immoral, depraved or corrupt person. Paul said he disciplined himself so he would not become like that. The original Greek word makes it clear that Paul realized that even he could fall into the depraved, immoral, corrupt and wicked condition of a disqualified castaway or reprobate.

Think about it. If the Bible states that this could even happen to the Apostle Paul, couldn’t it also happen to modern Christians? And, do you think that wicked, corrupt, depraved, immoral, disqualified, castaways or reprobates are still “saved” people who will enter heaven? Of course not!

It is also highly significant that the same Greek word, adokimos, which Paul said that he could become if he was not disciplined, was the word he used to describe the list of rejected sinners in the last days that we are to turn away from or avoid (2nd Timothy 3:1-8). He said in verse eight that these people were adokimos (reprobate-KJV, rejected-NIV, disapproved-NKJV) concerning the faith. In other words, they were reprobates who were rejected and worthless. Remember, Paul admitted that he also could become adokimos (a rejected, disapproved reprobate) just as these rejected sinners. Are the adokimos sinners listed in 2nd Timothy 3:1-8 still saved? Of course not! This is a description of people who are lost; Paul said that even he could also become like them if he was not disciplined.

Furthermore, in Romans 1:28, Paul states that the sinners that he lists, which includes fornicators, murderers, idolaters and haters of God, had forsaken God and developed an adokimos (reprobate-KJV, depraved-NIV, debased-NKJV) mind. Their minds, thoughts, attitudes and purposes had become depraved, immoral, corrupt and wicked as those of a reprobate. These adokimos minded sinners in Romans chapter one, were not saved people. They are presented as rebellious, wicked and rejected by God; Paul uses that same word, adokimos, to describe what he could become if he was not spiritually disciplined. Even Paul could become like them. Even Paul could fall into such a state of depravity and wickedness, thereby resulting in him being rejected as a depraved reprobate.

This Greek word, adokimos, is only used eight times in the entire New Testament. Every single time, without exception, it describes people or things that are wicked, depraved, debased, worthless, rejected, disapproved, disqualified, reprobate etc. It never depicts anything good or of saving value. We have already studied three of these adokimos texts. We will now examine the other five passages.

Titus 1:16 refers to a group of people that it describes as having denied Christ, and as being abominable, disobedient and adokimos (reprobate-KJV, disqualified-NKJV, unfit-NIV) for every good work. Remember, the Apostle Paul said that he could also become adokimos (an unfit, disqualified reprobate) like these people mentioned by Titus if he was not disciplined.

Hebrews 6:4-8 describes people who forsake Christ, and compares them to land that drinks in God’s blessings of rain, but then bears only useless thorns and briers. It then declares that land to be adokimos (rejected-KJV&NKJV, worthless-NIV), and whose end is to be burned. Once again, remember that the Apostle Paul stated that he could also become adokimos (rejected and worthless) like that land if he did not discipline himself.

In 2nd Corinthians 13:5-7, Paul uses adokimos three times. In verse five he states that Jesus Christ is in you, unless you are adokimos (reprobate-KJV, disqualified-NKJV, failed the test-NIV). He then said in verse six that he trusted that the Corinthians knew that he and his companions were not adokimos. And, in verse seven, he prayed that the Corinthians would avoid evil and live honorably, whether or not they viewed him as being adokimos. Of course, the key verse in this passage is verse five. Paul clearly states that Jesus Christ is in you, unless you are “adokimos”. In other words, to be adokimos is to not have Jesus within you! Once again, remember that Paul declared that he could also become adokimos. In other words, even the Apostle Paul could end up not having Jesus within himself, if he did not maintain spiritual discipline. And, if you do not have Jesus in you, you are certainly “lost”.

That’s why Paul said that he disciplined himself. He did not allow himself to have a careless or lazy spiritual attitude. Paul did not believe in once saved, always saved, and neither should we.

It is also certainly not a coincidence that, immediately after Paul admits the possibility for himself to become adokimos, he uses the example of Old Testament Israel to teach us not to repeat their sinful compromises (1st Corinthians 10:1-12). He reminds us that many of the Israelites who had been “baptized” in the sea, eaten the spiritual food (manna), and drank the spiritual drink from the “Rock” (Christ); nonetheless, later perished through various sinful compromises with lust, idolatry, sexual immorality and complaining. He concludes his point by saying, “therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall”.

Paul’s message is clear, and it should be a wakeup call for today’s unbiblical, “once saved, always saved” preachers! Immediately after Paul admits the possibility for himself to become adokimos in 1st Corinthians 9:27, he then shares examples of how large numbers of God’s “Old Testament Church” (Israel) fell into sin and perished, after initially having been delivered from Egypt. He concludes his point by stating that these things were recorded as examples for our admonition; moreover, that we, therefore, who think that we’ll stand, should take heed lest we fall (1st Corinthians 10:11-12).

In summary of these verses in 1st Corinthians, Paul’s message is certainly powerful and clear. He reminds us that even he, the powerful and inspired apostle, could fall into the depraved, wicked and lost condition of a “reprobate”, if he did not keep himself spiritually disciplined. He additionally reminds us that many Old Testament Israelites who had initially been delivered from the sins of Egypt, did later fall into sin and perish. He then instructs us to be admonished and to learn from their example, lest we fall due to our arrogance! It is undeniably obvious to any honest and unbiased person that this passage unequivocally refutes the Church’s “Once Saved, Always Saved”doctrine.

The Bible is clear on this issue. A “righteous” or “saved” person can choose to depart from the faith (1st Timothy 4:1), perish (1st Corinthians 8:8-11), have his previous faith to have been in vain (1st Corinthians 15:1-2), and thereby resulting in him being devoured by the fire and dying (Hebrews 10:26-29; Ezekiel 33:13). That’s why the Bible warns us in these verses to: “hold fast to the gospel”, “continue in the faith”, “endure”, “beware” and to not depart from God. Why would God give us numerous warnings not to “depart” or “turn away” from Him, unless it can happen?

You have seen the biblical proof, and it is obvious that this “Once Saved Always Saved” doctrine contradicts the overwhelming weight of biblical evidence. In addition to contradicting Scripture, the proclamation of this teaching is very problematic in that its message is the exact opposite of what our complacent, compromised and sleeping American Christian Church needs to hear.

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18 Responses to Once Saved Always Saved

  1. Black says:

    I love every single word on this post. I’ve been echoing this truth every since 1995 when I came into the true knowledge of Christ. I appreciate your diligence and dedication to the whole truth of scripture and it is truly a battle.

    Bringing Life And Christ Knowledge

  2. Grace says:

    Your study fails to look at the context of many of the passages. And your reasoning is quite circular. You deny the grace of God by adding works to your salvation and to the work of Christ on the Cross. The belief you’re teaching is no different than the Judaizers in Paul’s day who told the Galatians they must be circumcised –that they needed to add something to the grace of God. A salvation that doesn’t save is no salvation at all. Once saved always saved not true you say? But what you’re teaching is “once saved, but not really saved.” Please, study a bit harder and find out what the truth is.

  3. Henry Bechthold says:

    Hi Grace,
    I thank you for visiting my website. And, I also thank you for posting a comment, although we obviously disagree on this topic.

    I do find it interesting and revealing that you make general statements, charges and accusations without providing any Scripture whatsoever to back them up. You also accuse me of not considering the context of the passages I’ve cited, but you don’t bother to give even one example of a passage taken out of context in my article. I would like to suggest that the reason you have not listed any specific examples is because you are not able to do so. No scriptures are taken out of context in my article, and you know it. If you could have provided biblical proof, you certainly would have done so. The complete absence of Scripture in your response speaks for itself.

    However, I do once again thank you for taking the time to visit “God or Men”.

    Henry Bechthold

  4. Joy says:

    I just want to say that I am in complete support of this write up because I have always opposed the Doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved. It is a serious deception from the enemy and it is unscriptural.

    Grace, I would like to encourage you to take time to study the bible verses cited in the write up and ask the Holy Spirit to help you understand the word of God. Remember that Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit will teach us the truth about God’s word.

    Remember that Phil 2:12 says we should work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. 1 Peter 4:18 also says; “when the righteous shall scarcely be saved, where will the ungodly be?” Please also remember that the word of God clearly states that faith without work is dead (James 2:26). Please do not allow yourself to be deceived. Do not take the grace of God for granted. Open your heart to receive the truth of God’s word and serve the Lord wholeheartedly until the end because it is only those that serve the Lord till the day they die that will be saved.

  5. andrew says:

    ….i was saved when i was like 12, then denounced it in high school, then saved again when i was 19 but felt like i wasnt worthy because i turned away before and many are calld few are chosen. Every time i read those frightening scriptures in hebrews…i just hate myself so much for departing and im sorry. But i can speak in tongues and i understand that to be a manifestation of the holy spirit. So am i lost forever? Or can i continue to grow without feeling like its in vain. Please email me the answer as well as post it, many people are in my boat, and even less intend on changing, me and my wife are rea

  6. Henry Bechthold says:

    Hi Andrew,

    Thanks for your comments on my “Once Saved Always Saved” article. Andrew, you are obviously a sincere Christian. You are not lost. Jesus said in John 6:37 that He will not cast out anyone who comes to Him. And, He says in Revelation 3:20: “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him”.

    We’re also told in 1st John 1:9 that when we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. So, when you confessed your sin of backsliding away from Him, He forgave you and cleansed you. When you came back to Him, He did not reject you, as He says in John 6:37. The reason you came back was because He was knocking on the door of your heart; and, as it says in Revelation 3:20, when you opened that door, He came back in. Now, just determine to walk in the assurance of that acceptance, forgiveness and cleansing. He loves you, and you stand clean before Him because of Jesus’ sacrifice on your behalf.

    Hank Bechthold
    GodorMen Website

  7. Joy says:

    Dear Andrew,

    Our God is a God of second chances. Isaiah 1:18 says “Come now let us reason together, though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as sknow; though they be read like crimson, they shall be as wool”. In order words, it does not matter what sins you have committed, as long as you repent from the depth of your heart and turn away from your sinful ways, he will definitely pardon. Always remember that you cannot walk with God on your own strength. that’s why God said in Isaiah 64:6 that our righteousness is like filthy rags before Him. It is only the Holy Spirit that can help us walk the walk, so you need to depend on Him totally for help.

    Many years ago, I strayed from the Lord and lived in fornication for about 11 months until the Lord began to warn me to turn away from my sins or face everlasting destruction on judgment day. I tried to stop fornicating by my own strength without success. One day, it dawned on me that I could not do it on my own because I was weak and decided to call on the Lord to help me. It was only then that I was able to overcome. Now I understand what Apostle Paul meant when he said in Galatians 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me”.

    Please know that you will constantly have to fight against satisfying the lust of your flesh. Apostle Paul did the same thing in 1 Cor. 9:27. Please read the whole of Romans Chapter 8.

    My brother, the reason you are feeling the way you are is because God is calling you to repentance because He loves you. You need to spend time in his word. You need to pray constantly for Him to help you fight the good fight of faith till the end. I pray this always and I know that I have been sustained only by his Grace.

    God bless you.

  8. J chadzingwa says:

    Andrew, my only contribution is this: salvation is not something that a person can confirm, only God will do this. The Lord Jesus Christ, will not leave anyone unaware of their salvation condition. I say so because I know He has already told you about it already.

    Other Christians/believers may offer their advice or help, but only the Lord God will address your condition. Pray to him for an answer, if you are not sure.

    Thank you.

  9. Micah says:

    Great article! Good website as well, from what I’ve read so far things are right on with scripture as they should be! Thanks for posting and sharing it with us! However I do have one question and one suggestion… the question is what version Bible do you use because for example 1 Thessalonians 3:4-5 you say “tempted away” when all translations I found just say tempted. I know it seems minor but extra words like that can often change the meaning or add a bias. I am not saying you did either I am just curious what version. The suggestion is, though you supported your view, (mine as well), could you point out the flaws of the verses that the “once saved always saved” people use? It would be nice to see your comments about their verses. And here’s a verse someone brought to my attention:

    Ephesians 1:13-14 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation–having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
    who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.

    Now, isn’t a seal a symbol of something that can’t be broken? Good example is Daniel and the lions. The king’s seal couldn’t be broken so if we are sealed are we able to break that still? This was just brought to my attention. The only thing that I can think of is that the greek for “having also believed” should have been translated “continually believing” because the word for believe is Active… I don’t know. Anyhow thanks for the article, I agree with what you’re sharing!


  10. Hank Bechthold says:


    Thanks for your comments. You have a great Bible name, and you are also obviously a diligent student of the Scriptures.

    I find no problem with the text you mentioned about believers being sealed. Believers are also written in God’s “Book of Life”, and yet Revelation 3:5 makes it obvious that their names can be blotted out of the Book of Life.

    The same God who put Lucifer in heaven, also removed him from heaven after his sin. The same God who put Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, also removed them from the garden after their sin. As previously mentioned, in Revelation 3:1-5 we find that the same God who registered the Sardis believers’ names in the Book of Life, also said that only those who overcome will not be “blotted out” of the Book of Life; thus indicating that those who did not overcome would be removed from His Book of Life. And, Hebrews 10:26-29 reveals that the same God who had “sanctified” people, which is a status that only applies to “saved people”, will also devour them with fiery indignation if they willfully turn back to sin, which means that God obviously removes their “sanctified status”. Therefore, the same God who places a seal on someone, can also remove that seal. Even the Apostle Paul, who certainly was one of those “sealed believers”, acknowledged in 1st Corinthians 9:27 that he could become “adokimos” (a worthless reprobate) if he did not discipline himself, as I clearly documented in my article. As God states in Ezekiel 33:18: if a “righteous man”, which can only be a “saved man”, turns to iniquity, he will die.

    Micah, thanks again for your comments, and may God richly bless you in every way.

    Hank Bechthold

  11. Micah says:

    Thanks Hank,
    You are right. Thank you for your reply and for sharing your knowledge of the scriptures and for sharing your wisdom!

    Brother in Christ,

  12. Michael says:


    I have always stood firm in my belief that “Once saved always saved” is not true. I have read many articles both for and against OSAS and yours is definitely the most well studied. I also noticed that you gave many of the verses that I have read that support OSAS and that simply shows how wholeheartedly you believe in what you write about.

    Thank you for the great faith-builder,

  13. Stacy says:

    I am curious…..if God does reject you, do you know it? And how would you know? And if you do get rejected can you be forgiven and saved after that?

    Thank you
    Please email reply as well

  14. Henry Bechthold says:


    Thank you for your response. The issue is not whether God rejects us, but whether we reject Him. He will always welcome anyone who comes to Him in faith and repentance.

    You seem like a very sincere person. And, just the fact that you are concerned about being rejected by Him shows that you have a desire to live for Him.

    Don’t let the devil discourage and condemn you. Just ask Jesus to forgive your sins and to reign in your life as your Lord, and He will.

    God bless you Stacy, and be of good courage.

    Henry Bechthold

  15. Rochelle says:

    Thank you Hank. I sometimes fear because I lived in a backslidden state also. Sometimes I get discourage, but I always go forth being hopeful. I love telling others about God’s wonderful salvation. Some have received the gospel.

    I pray, ‘God if I am lost, help me to help others not to do the things I’ve done to become lost.’ I repented and asked for Jesus’ help to stay on the path. sometimes I get discouraged thinking of those ‘lost’ scriptures, and I don’t study and pray as much. But there is not a moment that goes by that I don’t think of God and my relationship to Him. Please pray for me.

    • hank says:

      Hi Rochelle,

      Thank you for your comments today on various articles. It is obvious from your comments that you are a very sincere person who truly wants to live for Jesus. I encourage you to continue “fighting the good fight of faith”, as the Apostle Paul says. And, yes, I will pray for you Rochelle.

      Henry Bechthold

  16. Rick Shaffer says:

    I believe that if you have never read “Life in the Son” by Robert Shank you would be richly blessed to read it for the first time. It is the most conclusive study on eternal security that I have ever read. Shank was a preacher who was sold out to eternal security and set out to prove it once and for all. What he ended up with, however, is total rebuttal of once saved, always saved. The President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary wrote the introduction to his book and commented; ” I challenge any of my peers to refute this book.”

    I believe this book puts to rest any and every argument on this subject with such thoroughness and scripture proof that I would recommend it to everyone who can be objective in reading it and to all who are subjective on this subject because after they read this it will be impossible to hold to the argument for eternal security ever again.

  17. Carl says:

    There are those who claim that once saved you cannot loose your salvation, what if they are wrong? Problem!
    There are those who claim that you can reject Christ thereby loosing your salvation, what if they are wrong? No Problem.
    Simple logic makes it clear to me what to teach.
    This also applies to God’s plan of salvation in which Jesus included belief, repentance, confession, and baptism, the debates have gone on endlessly regarding all of these but belief. The only combination from which you can say no problem is all four.

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